[users] Re: packages.sw.be not working

[Dag Wieers]

It appears that your rpmforge packages site isn't working at the
moment. Any attempt to download from packages.sw.be fails at the moment.

Hi James,

This has happened last week as well. It has something to do with the NFS
share (which is the backend storage of the server) not being available.
Unfortunately I cannot fix it myself. I hope Karanbir can apply his magic
again.

Thanks for reporting !

[Karanbir Singh]

Hi Guys,

Post by Dag Wieers

It appears that your rpmforge packages site isn't working at the
moment. Any attempt to download from packages.sw.be fails at the moment.

Hi James,
This has happened last week as well. It has something to do with the NFS
share (which is the backend storage of the server) not being available.
Unfortunately I cannot fix it myself. I hope Karanbir can apply his
magic again.

Looking into the issue right now.

[Karanbir Singh]

Hi,

Post by Dag Wieers
This has happened last week as well. It has something to do with the NFS
share (which is the backend storage of the server) not being available.
Unfortunately I cannot fix it myself. I hope Karanbir can apply his
magic again.

Should be all fixed now. It looks like someone was trying to DDoS the
machine. Funny that the machine itself was fine, but the box that hosts
the remote disks could not keep up with the requests.

Let me look at a few options and see how we can bring storage local to
the machine, and perhaps have a failover closeby.

[Fabian Arrotin]

Post by Karanbir Singh
Hi,

Post by Dag Wieers
This has happened last week as well. It has something to do with the NFS
share (which is the backend storage of the server) not being available.
Unfortunately I cannot fix it myself. I hope Karanbir can apply his
magic again.

Should be all fixed now. It looks like someone was trying to DDoS the
machine. Funny that the machine itself was fine, but the box that hosts
the remote disks could not keep up with the requests.
Let me look at a few options and see how we can bring storage local to
the machine, and perhaps have a failover closeby.

Indeed, we talked about trimming (Steve said he would have a look) the
current repositories and update surya to C5 and then serve packages from
local disks instead of the nfs backend ...

[David Hrbáč]

Post by Fabian Arrotin
Indeed, we talked about trimming (Steve said he would have a look) the
current repositories and update surya to C5 and then serve packages from
local disks instead of the nfs backend ...

Well, it would be fine to have repos sqlite enabled. This is something
I'm wanting for very long time. I'm prepared to help.
Regards,
David Hrb??

[Dag Wieers]

Post by David Hrbáč

Post by Fabian Arrotin
Indeed, we talked about trimming (Steve said he would have a look) the
current repositories and update surya to C5 and then serve packages from
local disks instead of the nfs backend ...

Well, it would be fine to have repos sqlite enabled. This is something
I'm wanting for very long time. I'm prepared to help.

The problem is that the server that currently creates the repositories is
running on RHEL4, and we need at least RHEL5 for creating sqlite
repositories.

So there you go :-) It's not that we don't want it. It's that I cannot
migrate that server from RHEL4 to RHEL5, and maybe if I could I wouldn't
have the time to do it either.

[Karanbir Singh]

Hi,

Post by Dag Wieers
So there you go :-) It's not that we don't want it. It's that I cannot
migrate that server from RHEL4 to RHEL5, and maybe if I could I wouldn't
have the time to do it either.

Fabian and I were going to look at doing this migration soon. There are
a couple of things that we spoke about ( maybe most of it was on irc ).
I'll do a short email on a new thread to recap exactly what the option
proposed was, and we can take it from there.

- KB

[Dag Wieers]

Post by Dag Wieers
So there you go :-) It's not that we don't want it. It's that I cannot
migrate that server from RHEL4 to RHEL5, and maybe if I could I wouldn't
have the time to do it either.

Fabian and I were going to look at doing this migration soon. There are a
couple of things that we spoke about ( maybe most of it was on irc ). I'll do
a short email on a new thread to recap exactly what the option proposed was,
and we can take it from there.

Well, I formally reject anything that is discussed on IRC. I hated it in
the CentOS project too. You cannot expect people to be on IRC and reading
back if they're not present.

So if I read that Steve is assigned to clean up RPMforge and I haven't
heard of that before and there was no discussion about it, I wonder how
that's going to work out.

And to be honest, I think a restructuring is best done if we change other
things as well.

[David Hrbáč]

Post by Dag Wieers
Well, I formally reject anything that is discussed on IRC. I hated it in
the CentOS project too. You cannot expect people to be on IRC and
reading back if they're not present.

Right, IRC is not the communication mean for me to discuss. I'm not
always on-line.

Post by Dag Wieers
So if I read that Steve is assigned to clean up RPMforge and I haven't
heard of that before and there was no discussion about it, I wonder how
that's going to work out.
And to be honest, I think a restructuring is best done if we change
other things as well.

Sorry, maybe I'm gonna repeat myself again, but there isn't going to be
any real progress without leadership, either single person or board.
Guys, try for a while to think about it before replying...
DH

[Yury V. Zaytsev]

Post by Dag Wieers
So if I read that Steve is assigned to clean up RPMforge and I haven't
heard of that before and there was no discussion about it, I wonder how
that's going to work out.

Well, there was a post on the mailing list, to which I personally didn't
reply, because I felt that I'm not competent enough to contribute
anything new to the write up. It was more like some comments from you
were expected.

By the way, the goal behind both his post (I guess) and my git post was
to make small changes that will give immediate benefit without starting
from scratch.

Post by Dag Wieers
Sorry, maybe I'm gonna repeat myself again, but there isn't going to
be any real progress without leadership, either single person or
board. Guys, try for a while to think about it before replying...

Now I have to agree with David and reiterate on my point that what
everybody is subconsciously waiting for is your blessing. Again, I have
no clue on who's Matthias and what have the issues behind moving forward
with RPMRepo, RPMForge or whatever new name was supposed to be, but if
there are no more formal reasons to not to make progress, why wouldn't
you Dag post a message:

1) We're starting from scratch with [new_name]
2) Karanbir or whomever sets up Redmine, Trac or whatever
3) We make a Doodle to schedule monthly meeting
4) Start planning

We need a board of leaders :-)

[Karanbir Singh]

Post by Yury V. Zaytsev
2) Karanbir or whomever sets up Redmine, Trac or whatever

Given that I'm already spread quite thin, and that you had offered to do
it Yury, are you still interested in doing the Trac setup ? I did email
you for a key and ip list that you connect from, but its possible that
email went walk-about, so asking again. Send me ( or Fabian ) a key and
we can get you setup with a machine instance you can use for the Trac site

- KB

[Karanbir Singh]

Post by Yury V. Zaytsev
2) Karanbir or whomever sets up Redmine, Trac or whatever

Given that I'm already spread quite thin, and that you had offered to do
it Yury, are you still interested in doing the Trac setup ? I did email
you for a key and ip list that you connect from, but its possible that
email went walk-about, so asking again. Send me ( or Fabian ) a key and
we can get you setup with a machine instance you can use for the Trac site

- KB

[Karanbir Singh]

Post by Yury V. Zaytsev
2) Karanbir or whomever sets up Redmine, Trac or whatever

Given that I'm already spread quite thin, and that you had offered to do
it Yury, are you still interested in doing the Trac setup ? I did email
you for a key and ip list that you connect from, but its possible that
email went walk-about, so asking again. Send me ( or Fabian ) a key and
we can get you setup with a machine instance you can use for the Trac site

- KB

[Karanbir Singh]

Post by Yury V. Zaytsev
2) Karanbir or whomever sets up Redmine, Trac or whatever

Given that I'm already spread quite thin, and that you had offered to do
it Yury, are you still interested in doing the Trac setup ? I did email
you for a key and ip list that you connect from, but its possible that
email went walk-about, so asking again. Send me ( or Fabian ) a key and
we can get you setup with a machine instance you can use for the Trac site

- KB

[Karanbir Singh]

Post by Yury V. Zaytsev
2) Karanbir or whomever sets up Redmine, Trac or whatever

Given that I'm already spread quite thin, and that you had offered to do
it Yury, are you still interested in doing the Trac setup ? I did email
you for a key and ip list that you connect from, but its possible that
email went walk-about, so asking again. Send me ( or Fabian ) a key and
we can get you setup with a machine instance you can use for the Trac site

- KB

[Karanbir Singh]

Post by Dag Wieers
So if I read that Steve is assigned to clean up RPMforge and I haven't
heard of that before and there was no discussion about it, I wonder how
that's going to work out.

Well, this was mentioned on email to the packages list, and other people
did post followup emails as well.

There is a task that someone was offering to take up - I am just trying
to facilitate something that we've not been able to do since the
beginning of time ( well, since the very start of my awareness of
rpmforge, there has been talk of a cleanup ).

IRC is a fantastic means of communication when people need to pair on a
task. Email isnt going to hack it - and the cost of telephone
conversations makes it impossible to work with. The added win from IRC
being that there are logs that can be looked at by people who would have
some level of interest.

I am totally unaware of any other means of productive pairing in the
open source world, that does not fall apart with induced latency ( that
most of us need to work and contend with since its not always possible
to sync up when we are all in the same state of play / work mode ).

- KB

[Yury V. Zaytsev]

Post by Karanbir Singh
IRC is a fantastic means of communication when people need to pair on a
task. Email isnt going to hack it - and the cost of telephone
conversations makes it impossible to work with. The added win from IRC
being that there are logs that can be looked at by people who would have
some level of interest.

At Midnight Commander we have a logger present in our Jabber room and
logs publicly accessible on the website. This for pairing and mailing
list + trac instance do their job pretty efficiently.

Does RPMForge have an "official" IRC channel with the logger present all
the time / logs publicly accessible?

This would be the first essential step for our coordination effort to
work to my mind.

[Karanbir Singh]

Post by Yury V. Zaytsev
At Midnight Commander we have a logger present in our Jabber room and
logs publicly accessible on the website. This for pairing and mailing
list + trac instance do their job pretty efficiently.

I have logs going back a few years, can easily post them somewhere. What
would you think is a good place to see these logs ?

Post by Yury V. Zaytsev
Does RPMForge have an "official" IRC channel with the logger present all
the time / logs publicly accessible?

#rpmforge and #rpmrepo on irc.freenode.net are about as official as
anything I've known.


- KB

[Yury V. Zaytsev]

Post by Karanbir Singh

Post by Yury V. Zaytsev
At Midnight Commander we have a logger present in our Jabber room and
logs publicly accessible on the website. This for pairing and mailing
list + trac instance do their job pretty efficiently.

I have logs going back a few years, can easily post them somewhere. What
would you think is a good place to see these logs ?

Bah, does RPMForge actually have a website :-) ?

If I had access to DNS I would create a subdomain "irc" to host them and
post the link on the list / alter the topic of the channels. I assume
your question is not about not having webspace, right?

[Karanbir Singh]

Post by Yury V. Zaytsev
If I had access to DNS I would create a subdomain "irc" to host them and
post the link on the list / alter the topic of the channels. I assume
your question is not about not having webspace, right?

Let me see what I can put together.

- KB

[Karanbir Singh]

Post by Yury V. Zaytsev
If I had access to DNS I would create a subdomain "irc" to host them and
post the link on the list / alter the topic of the channels. I assume
your question is not about not having webspace, right?

Let me see what I can put together.

- KB

[Karanbir Singh]

Post by Yury V. Zaytsev
If I had access to DNS I would create a subdomain "irc" to host them and
post the link on the list / alter the topic of the channels. I assume
your question is not about not having webspace, right?

Let me see what I can put together.

- KB

[Karanbir Singh]

Post by Yury V. Zaytsev
If I had access to DNS I would create a subdomain "irc" to host them and
post the link on the list / alter the topic of the channels. I assume
your question is not about not having webspace, right?

Let me see what I can put together.

- KB

[Karanbir Singh]

Post by Yury V. Zaytsev
If I had access to DNS I would create a subdomain "irc" to host them and
post the link on the list / alter the topic of the channels. I assume
your question is not about not having webspace, right?

Let me see what I can put together.

- KB

[Yury V. Zaytsev]

Post by Karanbir Singh

Post by Yury V. Zaytsev
At Midnight Commander we have a logger present in our Jabber room and
logs publicly accessible on the website. This for pairing and mailing
list + trac instance do their job pretty efficiently.

I have logs going back a few years, can easily post them somewhere. What
would you think is a good place to see these logs ?

Bah, does RPMForge actually have a website :-) ?

If I had access to DNS I would create a subdomain "irc" to host them and
post the link on the list / alter the topic of the channels. I assume
your question is not about not having webspace, right?

[Yury V. Zaytsev]

Post by Karanbir Singh

Post by Yury V. Zaytsev
At Midnight Commander we have a logger present in our Jabber room and
logs publicly accessible on the website. This for pairing and mailing
list + trac instance do their job pretty efficiently.

I have logs going back a few years, can easily post them somewhere. What
would you think is a good place to see these logs ?

Bah, does RPMForge actually have a website :-) ?

If I had access to DNS I would create a subdomain "irc" to host them and
post the link on the list / alter the topic of the channels. I assume
your question is not about not having webspace, right?

[Yury V. Zaytsev]

Post by Karanbir Singh

Post by Yury V. Zaytsev
At Midnight Commander we have a logger present in our Jabber room and
logs publicly accessible on the website. This for pairing and mailing
list + trac instance do their job pretty efficiently.

I have logs going back a few years, can easily post them somewhere. What
would you think is a good place to see these logs ?

Bah, does RPMForge actually have a website :-) ?

If I had access to DNS I would create a subdomain "irc" to host them and
post the link on the list / alter the topic of the channels. I assume
your question is not about not having webspace, right?

[Yury V. Zaytsev]

Post by Karanbir Singh

Post by Yury V. Zaytsev
At Midnight Commander we have a logger present in our Jabber room and
logs publicly accessible on the website. This for pairing and mailing
list + trac instance do their job pretty efficiently.

I have logs going back a few years, can easily post them somewhere. What
would you think is a good place to see these logs ?

Bah, does RPMForge actually have a website :-) ?

If I had access to DNS I would create a subdomain "irc" to host them and
post the link on the list / alter the topic of the channels. I assume
your question is not about not having webspace, right?

[Karanbir Singh]

Post by Yury V. Zaytsev
At Midnight Commander we have a logger present in our Jabber room and
logs publicly accessible on the website. This for pairing and mailing
list + trac instance do their job pretty efficiently.

I have logs going back a few years, can easily post them somewhere. What
would you think is a good place to see these logs ?

Post by Yury V. Zaytsev
Does RPMForge have an "official" IRC channel with the logger present all
the time / logs publicly accessible?

#rpmforge and #rpmrepo on irc.freenode.net are about as official as
anything I've known.


- KB

[Karanbir Singh]

Post by Yury V. Zaytsev
At Midnight Commander we have a logger present in our Jabber room and
logs publicly accessible on the website. This for pairing and mailing
list + trac instance do their job pretty efficiently.

I have logs going back a few years, can easily post them somewhere. What
would you think is a good place to see these logs ?

Post by Yury V. Zaytsev
Does RPMForge have an "official" IRC channel with the logger present all
the time / logs publicly accessible?

#rpmforge and #rpmrepo on irc.freenode.net are about as official as
anything I've known.


- KB

[Karanbir Singh]

Post by Yury V. Zaytsev
At Midnight Commander we have a logger present in our Jabber room and
logs publicly accessible on the website. This for pairing and mailing
list + trac instance do their job pretty efficiently.

I have logs going back a few years, can easily post them somewhere. What
would you think is a good place to see these logs ?

Post by Yury V. Zaytsev
Does RPMForge have an "official" IRC channel with the logger present all
the time / logs publicly accessible?

#rpmforge and #rpmrepo on irc.freenode.net are about as official as
anything I've known.


- KB

[Karanbir Singh]

Post by Yury V. Zaytsev
At Midnight Commander we have a logger present in our Jabber room and
logs publicly accessible on the website. This for pairing and mailing
list + trac instance do their job pretty efficiently.

I have logs going back a few years, can easily post them somewhere. What
would you think is a good place to see these logs ?

Post by Yury V. Zaytsev
Does RPMForge have an "official" IRC channel with the logger present all
the time / logs publicly accessible?

#rpmforge and #rpmrepo on irc.freenode.net are about as official as
anything I've known.


- KB

[Yury V. Zaytsev]

Post by Karanbir Singh
IRC is a fantastic means of communication when people need to pair on a
task. Email isnt going to hack it - and the cost of telephone
conversations makes it impossible to work with. The added win from IRC
being that there are logs that can be looked at by people who would have
some level of interest.

At Midnight Commander we have a logger present in our Jabber room and
logs publicly accessible on the website. This for pairing and mailing
list + trac instance do their job pretty efficiently.

Does RPMForge have an "official" IRC channel with the logger present all
the time / logs publicly accessible?

This would be the first essential step for our coordination effort to
work to my mind.

[Yury V. Zaytsev]

Post by Karanbir Singh
IRC is a fantastic means of communication when people need to pair on a
task. Email isnt going to hack it - and the cost of telephone
conversations makes it impossible to work with. The added win from IRC
being that there are logs that can be looked at by people who would have
some level of interest.

At Midnight Commander we have a logger present in our Jabber room and
logs publicly accessible on the website. This for pairing and mailing
list + trac instance do their job pretty efficiently.

Does RPMForge have an "official" IRC channel with the logger present all
the time / logs publicly accessible?

This would be the first essential step for our coordination effort to
work to my mind.

[Yury V. Zaytsev]

Post by Karanbir Singh
IRC is a fantastic means of communication when people need to pair on a
task. Email isnt going to hack it - and the cost of telephone
conversations makes it impossible to work with. The added win from IRC
being that there are logs that can be looked at by people who would have
some level of interest.

At Midnight Commander we have a logger present in our Jabber room and
logs publicly accessible on the website. This for pairing and mailing
list + trac instance do their job pretty efficiently.

Does RPMForge have an "official" IRC channel with the logger present all
the time / logs publicly accessible?

This would be the first essential step for our coordination effort to
work to my mind.

[Yury V. Zaytsev]

Post by Karanbir Singh
IRC is a fantastic means of communication when people need to pair on a
task. Email isnt going to hack it - and the cost of telephone
conversations makes it impossible to work with. The added win from IRC
being that there are logs that can be looked at by people who would have
some level of interest.

At Midnight Commander we have a logger present in our Jabber room and
logs publicly accessible on the website. This for pairing and mailing
list + trac instance do their job pretty efficiently.

Does RPMForge have an "official" IRC channel with the logger present all
the time / logs publicly accessible?

This would be the first essential step for our coordination effort to
work to my mind.

[Fabian Arrotin]

Post by Dag Wieers

Post by Dag Wieers
So there you go :-) It's not that we don't want it. It's that I cannot
migrate that server from RHEL4 to RHEL5, and maybe if I could I wouldn't
have the time to do it either.

Fabian and I were going to look at doing this migration soon. There are a
couple of things that we spoke about ( maybe most of it was on irc ). I'll do
a short email on a new thread to recap exactly what the option proposed was,
and we can take it from there.

Well, I formally reject anything that is discussed on IRC. I hated it in
the CentOS project too. You cannot expect people to be on IRC and reading
back if they're not present.

Yes, and i think everybody would do that .. except that what I discussed
on IRC with Karanbir is what we *all* (i mean you, Karanbir, Dries and
me) talked about around a table during the Fosdem ...
Basically it involves just updating surya to c5, have a vm hosting a new
website for RPMforge/rpmrepo/(repoforge ?), and move the repodata back
to surya (to avoid the NFS bottleneck and reliability issue)
Just after the Fosdem i've worked with Karanbir to get back control over
the rpmrepo.org domain now hosted on surya and my Hetzner server so we
can just start directly create A records or modify the existing www
records once that VM will be there.

Post by Dag Wieers
So if I read that Steve is assigned to clean up RPMforge and I haven't
heard of that before and there was no discussion about it, I wonder how
that's going to work out.
And to be honest, I think a restructuring is best done if we change other
things as well.

Which other things ? You're probably right but then we'd need a list of
things to be done and in the correct order.
If you prefer using a new domain name (instead of rpmrepo.org), i'm fine
.. and if you still accept to use rpmrepo.org, i'm fine with that too :-)
Actually (as Dries stated during the Fosdem), we're only two 'builders'
left : you on your buildsystem and me on my mac (using mock) , and
several svn committers (you, Steve , Chris and Yury iirc)
Maybe centralizing (on the wiki ?) why some specs on svn.rpmforge.net
are built/processed by my builder and not by yours would be fine (just
for example : i received a mail from someone wanting the pnp4nagios
package, which is in svn for quite a long time and not tagged as test,
and being available for the ppc arch, but not for i386/x86_64 .. and
without a buildlog available so that means not even processed for those
arches ...)

[David Hrbáč]

Post by Dag Wieers
Well, I formally reject anything that is discussed on IRC. I hated it in
the CentOS project too. You cannot expect people to be on IRC and
reading back if they're not present.

Right, IRC is not the communication mean for me to discuss. I'm not
always on-line.

Post by Dag Wieers
So if I read that Steve is assigned to clean up RPMforge and I haven't
heard of that before and there was no discussion about it, I wonder how
that's going to work out.
And to be honest, I think a restructuring is best done if we change
other things as well.

Sorry, maybe I'm gonna repeat myself again, but there isn't going to be
any real progress without leadership, either single person or board.
Guys, try for a while to think about it before replying...
DH

[Yury V. Zaytsev]

Post by Dag Wieers
So if I read that Steve is assigned to clean up RPMforge and I haven't
heard of that before and there was no discussion about it, I wonder how
that's going to work out.

Well, there was a post on the mailing list, to which I personally didn't
reply, because I felt that I'm not competent enough to contribute
anything new to the write up. It was more like some comments from you
were expected.

By the way, the goal behind both his post (I guess) and my git post was
to make small changes that will give immediate benefit without starting
from scratch.

Post by Dag Wieers
Sorry, maybe I'm gonna repeat myself again, but there isn't going to
be any real progress without leadership, either single person or
board. Guys, try for a while to think about it before replying...

Now I have to agree with David and reiterate on my point that what
everybody is subconsciously waiting for is your blessing. Again, I have
no clue on who's Matthias and what have the issues behind moving forward
with RPMRepo, RPMForge or whatever new name was supposed to be, but if
there are no more formal reasons to not to make progress, why wouldn't
you Dag post a message:

1) We're starting from scratch with [new_name]
2) Karanbir or whomever sets up Redmine, Trac or whatever
3) We make a Doodle to schedule monthly meeting
4) Start planning

We need a board of leaders :-)

[Karanbir Singh]

Post by Dag Wieers
So if I read that Steve is assigned to clean up RPMforge and I haven't
heard of that before and there was no discussion about it, I wonder how
that's going to work out.

Well, this was mentioned on email to the packages list, and other people
did post followup emails as well.

There is a task that someone was offering to take up - I am just trying
to facilitate something that we've not been able to do since the
beginning of time ( well, since the very start of my awareness of
rpmforge, there has been talk of a cleanup ).

IRC is a fantastic means of communication when people need to pair on a
task. Email isnt going to hack it - and the cost of telephone
conversations makes it impossible to work with. The added win from IRC
being that there are logs that can be looked at by people who would have
some level of interest.

I am totally unaware of any other means of productive pairing in the
open source world, that does not fall apart with induced latency ( that
most of us need to work and contend with since its not always possible
to sync up when we are all in the same state of play / work mode ).

- KB

[Fabian Arrotin]

Post by Dag Wieers

Post by Dag Wieers
So there you go :-) It's not that we don't want it. It's that I cannot
migrate that server from RHEL4 to RHEL5, and maybe if I could I wouldn't
have the time to do it either.

Fabian and I were going to look at doing this migration soon. There are a
couple of things that we spoke about ( maybe most of it was on irc ). I'll do
a short email on a new thread to recap exactly what the option proposed was,
and we can take it from there.

Well, I formally reject anything that is discussed on IRC. I hated it in
the CentOS project too. You cannot expect people to be on IRC and reading
back if they're not present.

Yes, and i think everybody would do that .. except that what I discussed
on IRC with Karanbir is what we *all* (i mean you, Karanbir, Dries and
me) talked about around a table during the Fosdem ...
Basically it involves just updating surya to c5, have a vm hosting a new
website for RPMforge/rpmrepo/(repoforge ?), and move the repodata back
to surya (to avoid the NFS bottleneck and reliability issue)
Just after the Fosdem i've worked with Karanbir to get back control over
the rpmrepo.org domain now hosted on surya and my Hetzner server so we
can just start directly create A records or modify the existing www
records once that VM will be there.

Post by Dag Wieers
So if I read that Steve is assigned to clean up RPMforge and I haven't
heard of that before and there was no discussion about it, I wonder how
that's going to work out.
And to be honest, I think a restructuring is best done if we change other
things as well.

Which other things ? You're probably right but then we'd need a list of
things to be done and in the correct order.
If you prefer using a new domain name (instead of rpmrepo.org), i'm fine
.. and if you still accept to use rpmrepo.org, i'm fine with that too :-)
Actually (as Dries stated during the Fosdem), we're only two 'builders'
left : you on your buildsystem and me on my mac (using mock) , and
several svn committers (you, Steve , Chris and Yury iirc)
Maybe centralizing (on the wiki ?) why some specs on svn.rpmforge.net
are built/processed by my builder and not by yours would be fine (just
for example : i received a mail from someone wanting the pnp4nagios
package, which is in svn for quite a long time and not tagged as test,
and being available for the ppc arch, but not for i386/x86_64 .. and
without a buildlog available so that means not even processed for those
arches ...)

[David Hrbáč]

Post by Dag Wieers
Well, I formally reject anything that is discussed on IRC. I hated it in
the CentOS project too. You cannot expect people to be on IRC and
reading back if they're not present.

Right, IRC is not the communication mean for me to discuss. I'm not
always on-line.

Post by Dag Wieers
So if I read that Steve is assigned to clean up RPMforge and I haven't
heard of that before and there was no discussion about it, I wonder how
that's going to work out.
And to be honest, I think a restructuring is best done if we change
other things as well.

Sorry, maybe I'm gonna repeat myself again, but there isn't going to be
any real progress without leadership, either single person or board.
Guys, try for a while to think about it before replying...
DH

[Yury V. Zaytsev]

Post by Dag Wieers
So if I read that Steve is assigned to clean up RPMforge and I haven't
heard of that before and there was no discussion about it, I wonder how
that's going to work out.

Well, there was a post on the mailing list, to which I personally didn't
reply, because I felt that I'm not competent enough to contribute
anything new to the write up. It was more like some comments from you
were expected.

By the way, the goal behind both his post (I guess) and my git post was
to make small changes that will give immediate benefit without starting
from scratch.

Post by Dag Wieers
Sorry, maybe I'm gonna repeat myself again, but there isn't going to
be any real progress without leadership, either single person or
board. Guys, try for a while to think about it before replying...

Now I have to agree with David and reiterate on my point that what
everybody is subconsciously waiting for is your blessing. Again, I have
no clue on who's Matthias and what have the issues behind moving forward
with RPMRepo, RPMForge or whatever new name was supposed to be, but if
there are no more formal reasons to not to make progress, why wouldn't
you Dag post a message:

1) We're starting from scratch with [new_name]
2) Karanbir or whomever sets up Redmine, Trac or whatever
3) We make a Doodle to schedule monthly meeting
4) Start planning

We need a board of leaders :-)

[Karanbir Singh]

Post by Dag Wieers
So if I read that Steve is assigned to clean up RPMforge and I haven't
heard of that before and there was no discussion about it, I wonder how
that's going to work out.

Well, this was mentioned on email to the packages list, and other people
did post followup emails as well.

There is a task that someone was offering to take up - I am just trying
to facilitate something that we've not been able to do since the
beginning of time ( well, since the very start of my awareness of
rpmforge, there has been talk of a cleanup ).

IRC is a fantastic means of communication when people need to pair on a
task. Email isnt going to hack it - and the cost of telephone
conversations makes it impossible to work with. The added win from IRC
being that there are logs that can be looked at by people who would have
some level of interest.

I am totally unaware of any other means of productive pairing in the
open source world, that does not fall apart with induced latency ( that
most of us need to work and contend with since its not always possible
to sync up when we are all in the same state of play / work mode ).

- KB

[Fabian Arrotin]

Post by Dag Wieers

Post by Dag Wieers
So there you go :-) It's not that we don't want it. It's that I cannot
migrate that server from RHEL4 to RHEL5, and maybe if I could I wouldn't
have the time to do it either.

Fabian and I were going to look at doing this migration soon. There are a
couple of things that we spoke about ( maybe most of it was on irc ). I'll do
a short email on a new thread to recap exactly what the option proposed was,
and we can take it from there.

Well, I formally reject anything that is discussed on IRC. I hated it in
the CentOS project too. You cannot expect people to be on IRC and reading
back if they're not present.

Yes, and i think everybody would do that .. except that what I discussed
on IRC with Karanbir is what we *all* (i mean you, Karanbir, Dries and
me) talked about around a table during the Fosdem ...
Basically it involves just updating surya to c5, have a vm hosting a new
website for RPMforge/rpmrepo/(repoforge ?), and move the repodata back
to surya (to avoid the NFS bottleneck and reliability issue)
Just after the Fosdem i've worked with Karanbir to get back control over
the rpmrepo.org domain now hosted on surya and my Hetzner server so we
can just start directly create A records or modify the existing www
records once that VM will be there.

Post by Dag Wieers
So if I read that Steve is assigned to clean up RPMforge and I haven't
heard of that before and there was no discussion about it, I wonder how
that's going to work out.
And to be honest, I think a restructuring is best done if we change other
things as well.

Which other things ? You're probably right but then we'd need a list of
things to be done and in the correct order.
If you prefer using a new domain name (instead of rpmrepo.org), i'm fine
.. and if you still accept to use rpmrepo.org, i'm fine with that too :-)
Actually (as Dries stated during the Fosdem), we're only two 'builders'
left : you on your buildsystem and me on my mac (using mock) , and
several svn committers (you, Steve , Chris and Yury iirc)
Maybe centralizing (on the wiki ?) why some specs on svn.rpmforge.net
are built/processed by my builder and not by yours would be fine (just
for example : i received a mail from someone wanting the pnp4nagios
package, which is in svn for quite a long time and not tagged as test,
and being available for the ppc arch, but not for i386/x86_64 .. and
without a buildlog available so that means not even processed for those
arches ...)

[David Hrbáč]

Post by Dag Wieers
Well, I formally reject anything that is discussed on IRC. I hated it in
the CentOS project too. You cannot expect people to be on IRC and
reading back if they're not present.

Right, IRC is not the communication mean for me to discuss. I'm not
always on-line.

Post by Dag Wieers
So if I read that Steve is assigned to clean up RPMforge and I haven't
heard of that before and there was no discussion about it, I wonder how
that's going to work out.
And to be honest, I think a restructuring is best done if we change
other things as well.

Sorry, maybe I'm gonna repeat myself again, but there isn't going to be
any real progress without leadership, either single person or board.
Guys, try for a while to think about it before replying...
DH

[Yury V. Zaytsev]

Post by Dag Wieers
So if I read that Steve is assigned to clean up RPMforge and I haven't
heard of that before and there was no discussion about it, I wonder how
that's going to work out.

Well, there was a post on the mailing list, to which I personally didn't
reply, because I felt that I'm not competent enough to contribute
anything new to the write up. It was more like some comments from you
were expected.

By the way, the goal behind both his post (I guess) and my git post was
to make small changes that will give immediate benefit without starting
from scratch.

Post by Dag Wieers
Sorry, maybe I'm gonna repeat myself again, but there isn't going to
be any real progress without leadership, either single person or
board. Guys, try for a while to think about it before replying...

Now I have to agree with David and reiterate on my point that what
everybody is subconsciously waiting for is your blessing. Again, I have
no clue on who's Matthias and what have the issues behind moving forward
with RPMRepo, RPMForge or whatever new name was supposed to be, but if
there are no more formal reasons to not to make progress, why wouldn't
you Dag post a message:

1) We're starting from scratch with [new_name]
2) Karanbir or whomever sets up Redmine, Trac or whatever
3) We make a Doodle to schedule monthly meeting
4) Start planning

We need a board of leaders :-)

[Karanbir Singh]

Post by Dag Wieers
So if I read that Steve is assigned to clean up RPMforge and I haven't
heard of that before and there was no discussion about it, I wonder how
that's going to work out.

Well, this was mentioned on email to the packages list, and other people
did post followup emails as well.

There is a task that someone was offering to take up - I am just trying
to facilitate something that we've not been able to do since the
beginning of time ( well, since the very start of my awareness of
rpmforge, there has been talk of a cleanup ).

IRC is a fantastic means of communication when people need to pair on a
task. Email isnt going to hack it - and the cost of telephone
conversations makes it impossible to work with. The added win from IRC
being that there are logs that can be looked at by people who would have
some level of interest.

I am totally unaware of any other means of productive pairing in the
open source world, that does not fall apart with induced latency ( that
most of us need to work and contend with since its not always possible
to sync up when we are all in the same state of play / work mode ).

- KB

[Fabian Arrotin]

Post by Dag Wieers

Post by Dag Wieers
So there you go :-) It's not that we don't want it. It's that I cannot
migrate that server from RHEL4 to RHEL5, and maybe if I could I wouldn't
have the time to do it either.

Fabian and I were going to look at doing this migration soon. There are a
couple of things that we spoke about ( maybe most of it was on irc ). I'll do
a short email on a new thread to recap exactly what the option proposed was,
and we can take it from there.

Well, I formally reject anything that is discussed on IRC. I hated it in
the CentOS project too. You cannot expect people to be on IRC and reading
back if they're not present.

Yes, and i think everybody would do that .. except that what I discussed
on IRC with Karanbir is what we *all* (i mean you, Karanbir, Dries and
me) talked about around a table during the Fosdem ...
Basically it involves just updating surya to c5, have a vm hosting a new
website for RPMforge/rpmrepo/(repoforge ?), and move the repodata back
to surya (to avoid the NFS bottleneck and reliability issue)
Just after the Fosdem i've worked with Karanbir to get back control over
the rpmrepo.org domain now hosted on surya and my Hetzner server so we
can just start directly create A records or modify the existing www
records once that VM will be there.

Post by Dag Wieers
So if I read that Steve is assigned to clean up RPMforge and I haven't
heard of that before and there was no discussion about it, I wonder how
that's going to work out.
And to be honest, I think a restructuring is best done if we change other
things as well.

Which other things ? You're probably right but then we'd need a list of
things to be done and in the correct order.
If you prefer using a new domain name (instead of rpmrepo.org), i'm fine
.. and if you still accept to use rpmrepo.org, i'm fine with that too :-)
Actually (as Dries stated during the Fosdem), we're only two 'builders'
left : you on your buildsystem and me on my mac (using mock) , and
several svn committers (you, Steve , Chris and Yury iirc)
Maybe centralizing (on the wiki ?) why some specs on svn.rpmforge.net
are built/processed by my builder and not by yours would be fine (just
for example : i received a mail from someone wanting the pnp4nagios
package, which is in svn for quite a long time and not tagged as test,
and being available for the ppc arch, but not for i386/x86_64 .. and
without a buildlog available so that means not even processed for those
arches ...)

[David Hrbáč]

Post by Dag Wieers
Well, I formally reject anything that is discussed on IRC. I hated it in
the CentOS project too. You cannot expect people to be on IRC and
reading back if they're not present.

Right, IRC is not the communication mean for me to discuss. I'm not
always on-line.

Post by Dag Wieers
So if I read that Steve is assigned to clean up RPMforge and I haven't
heard of that before and there was no discussion about it, I wonder how
that's going to work out.
And to be honest, I think a restructuring is best done if we change
other things as well.

Sorry, maybe I'm gonna repeat myself again, but there isn't going to be
any real progress without leadership, either single person or board.
Guys, try for a while to think about it before replying...
DH

[Yury V. Zaytsev]

Post by Dag Wieers
So if I read that Steve is assigned to clean up RPMforge and I haven't
heard of that before and there was no discussion about it, I wonder how
that's going to work out.

Well, there was a post on the mailing list, to which I personally didn't
reply, because I felt that I'm not competent enough to contribute
anything new to the write up. It was more like some comments from you
were expected.

By the way, the goal behind both his post (I guess) and my git post was
to make small changes that will give immediate benefit without starting
from scratch.

Post by Dag Wieers
Sorry, maybe I'm gonna repeat myself again, but there isn't going to
be any real progress without leadership, either single person or
board. Guys, try for a while to think about it before replying...

Now I have to agree with David and reiterate on my point that what
everybody is subconsciously waiting for is your blessing. Again, I have
no clue on who's Matthias and what have the issues behind moving forward
with RPMRepo, RPMForge or whatever new name was supposed to be, but if
there are no more formal reasons to not to make progress, why wouldn't
you Dag post a message:

1) We're starting from scratch with [new_name]
2) Karanbir or whomever sets up Redmine, Trac or whatever
3) We make a Doodle to schedule monthly meeting
4) Start planning

We need a board of leaders :-)

[Karanbir Singh]

Post by Dag Wieers
So if I read that Steve is assigned to clean up RPMforge and I haven't
heard of that before and there was no discussion about it, I wonder how
that's going to work out.

Well, this was mentioned on email to the packages list, and other people
did post followup emails as well.

There is a task that someone was offering to take up - I am just trying
to facilitate something that we've not been able to do since the
beginning of time ( well, since the very start of my awareness of
rpmforge, there has been talk of a cleanup ).

IRC is a fantastic means of communication when people need to pair on a
task. Email isnt going to hack it - and the cost of telephone
conversations makes it impossible to work with. The added win from IRC
being that there are logs that can be looked at by people who would have
some level of interest.

I am totally unaware of any other means of productive pairing in the
open source world, that does not fall apart with induced latency ( that
most of us need to work and contend with since its not always possible
to sync up when we are all in the same state of play / work mode ).

- KB

[Fabian Arrotin]

Post by Dag Wieers

Post by Dag Wieers
So there you go :-) It's not that we don't want it. It's that I cannot
migrate that server from RHEL4 to RHEL5, and maybe if I could I wouldn't
have the time to do it either.

Fabian and I were going to look at doing this migration soon. There are a
couple of things that we spoke about ( maybe most of it was on irc ). I'll do
a short email on a new thread to recap exactly what the option proposed was,
and we can take it from there.

Well, I formally reject anything that is discussed on IRC. I hated it in
the CentOS project too. You cannot expect people to be on IRC and reading
back if they're not present.

Yes, and i think everybody would do that .. except that what I discussed
on IRC with Karanbir is what we *all* (i mean you, Karanbir, Dries and
me) talked about around a table during the Fosdem ...
Basically it involves just updating surya to c5, have a vm hosting a new
website for RPMforge/rpmrepo/(repoforge ?), and move the repodata back
to surya (to avoid the NFS bottleneck and reliability issue)
Just after the Fosdem i've worked with Karanbir to get back control over
the rpmrepo.org domain now hosted on surya and my Hetzner server so we
can just start directly create A records or modify the existing www
records once that VM will be there.

Post by Dag Wieers
So if I read that Steve is assigned to clean up RPMforge and I haven't
heard of that before and there was no discussion about it, I wonder how
that's going to work out.
And to be honest, I think a restructuring is best done if we change other
things as well.

Which other things ? You're probably right but then we'd need a list of
things to be done and in the correct order.
If you prefer using a new domain name (instead of rpmrepo.org), i'm fine
.. and if you still accept to use rpmrepo.org, i'm fine with that too :-)
Actually (as Dries stated during the Fosdem), we're only two 'builders'
left : you on your buildsystem and me on my mac (using mock) , and
several svn committers (you, Steve , Chris and Yury iirc)
Maybe centralizing (on the wiki ?) why some specs on svn.rpmforge.net
are built/processed by my builder and not by yours would be fine (just
for example : i received a mail from someone wanting the pnp4nagios
package, which is in svn for quite a long time and not tagged as test,
and being available for the ppc arch, but not for i386/x86_64 .. and
without a buildlog available so that means not even processed for those
arches ...)

[Dag Wieers]

Post by Dag Wieers
So there you go :-) It's not that we don't want it. It's that I cannot
migrate that server from RHEL4 to RHEL5, and maybe if I could I wouldn't
have the time to do it either.

Fabian and I were going to look at doing this migration soon. There are a
couple of things that we spoke about ( maybe most of it was on irc ). I'll do
a short email on a new thread to recap exactly what the option proposed was,
and we can take it from there.

Well, I formally reject anything that is discussed on IRC. I hated it in
the CentOS project too. You cannot expect people to be on IRC and reading
back if they're not present.

So if I read that Steve is assigned to clean up RPMforge and I haven't
heard of that before and there was no discussion about it, I wonder how
that's going to work out.

And to be honest, I think a restructuring is best done if we change other
things as well.

[Dag Wieers]

Post by Dag Wieers
So there you go :-) It's not that we don't want it. It's that I cannot
migrate that server from RHEL4 to RHEL5, and maybe if I could I wouldn't
have the time to do it either.

Fabian and I were going to look at doing this migration soon. There are a
couple of things that we spoke about ( maybe most of it was on irc ). I'll do
a short email on a new thread to recap exactly what the option proposed was,
and we can take it from there.

Well, I formally reject anything that is discussed on IRC. I hated it in
the CentOS project too. You cannot expect people to be on IRC and reading
back if they're not present.

So if I read that Steve is assigned to clean up RPMforge and I haven't
heard of that before and there was no discussion about it, I wonder how
that's going to work out.

And to be honest, I think a restructuring is best done if we change other
things as well.

[Dag Wieers]

Post by Dag Wieers
So there you go :-) It's not that we don't want it. It's that I cannot
migrate that server from RHEL4 to RHEL5, and maybe if I could I wouldn't
have the time to do it either.

Fabian and I were going to look at doing this migration soon. There are a
couple of things that we spoke about ( maybe most of it was on irc ). I'll do
a short email on a new thread to recap exactly what the option proposed was,
and we can take it from there.

Well, I formally reject anything that is discussed on IRC. I hated it in
the CentOS project too. You cannot expect people to be on IRC and reading
back if they're not present.

So if I read that Steve is assigned to clean up RPMforge and I haven't
heard of that before and there was no discussion about it, I wonder how
that's going to work out.

And to be honest, I think a restructuring is best done if we change other
things as well.

[Dag Wieers]

Post by Dag Wieers
So there you go :-) It's not that we don't want it. It's that I cannot
migrate that server from RHEL4 to RHEL5, and maybe if I could I wouldn't
have the time to do it either.

Fabian and I were going to look at doing this migration soon. There are a
couple of things that we spoke about ( maybe most of it was on irc ). I'll do
a short email on a new thread to recap exactly what the option proposed was,
and we can take it from there.

Well, I formally reject anything that is discussed on IRC. I hated it in
the CentOS project too. You cannot expect people to be on IRC and reading
back if they're not present.

So if I read that Steve is assigned to clean up RPMforge and I haven't
heard of that before and there was no discussion about it, I wonder how
that's going to work out.

And to be honest, I think a restructuring is best done if we change other
things as well.

[David Hrbáč]

Post by Dag Wieers
The problem is that the server that currently creates the repositories
is running on RHEL4, and we need at least RHEL5 for creating sqlite
repositories.
So there you go :-) It's not that we don't want it. It's that I cannot
migrate that server from RHEL4 to RHEL5, and maybe if I could I wouldn't
have the time to do it either.

I know about that, I manage my repos. You know I have offered help to
you many times...
DH

[Karanbir Singh]

Hi,

Post by Dag Wieers
So there you go :-) It's not that we don't want it. It's that I cannot
migrate that server from RHEL4 to RHEL5, and maybe if I could I wouldn't
have the time to do it either.

Fabian and I were going to look at doing this migration soon. There are
a couple of things that we spoke about ( maybe most of it was on irc ).
I'll do a short email on a new thread to recap exactly what the option
proposed was, and we can take it from there.

- KB

[David Hrbáč]

Post by Dag Wieers
The problem is that the server that currently creates the repositories
is running on RHEL4, and we need at least RHEL5 for creating sqlite
repositories.
So there you go :-) It's not that we don't want it. It's that I cannot
migrate that server from RHEL4 to RHEL5, and maybe if I could I wouldn't
have the time to do it either.

I know about that, I manage my repos. You know I have offered help to
you many times...
DH

[Karanbir Singh]

Hi,

Post by Dag Wieers
So there you go :-) It's not that we don't want it. It's that I cannot
migrate that server from RHEL4 to RHEL5, and maybe if I could I wouldn't
have the time to do it either.

Fabian and I were going to look at doing this migration soon. There are
a couple of things that we spoke about ( maybe most of it was on irc ).
I'll do a short email on a new thread to recap exactly what the option
proposed was, and we can take it from there.

- KB

[David Hrbáč]

Post by Dag Wieers
The problem is that the server that currently creates the repositories
is running on RHEL4, and we need at least RHEL5 for creating sqlite
repositories.
So there you go :-) It's not that we don't want it. It's that I cannot
migrate that server from RHEL4 to RHEL5, and maybe if I could I wouldn't
have the time to do it either.

I know about that, I manage my repos. You know I have offered help to
you many times...
DH

[Karanbir Singh]

Hi,

Post by Dag Wieers
So there you go :-) It's not that we don't want it. It's that I cannot
migrate that server from RHEL4 to RHEL5, and maybe if I could I wouldn't
have the time to do it either.

Fabian and I were going to look at doing this migration soon. There are
a couple of things that we spoke about ( maybe most of it was on irc ).
I'll do a short email on a new thread to recap exactly what the option
proposed was, and we can take it from there.

- KB

[David Hrbáč]

Post by Dag Wieers
The problem is that the server that currently creates the repositories
is running on RHEL4, and we need at least RHEL5 for creating sqlite
repositories.
So there you go :-) It's not that we don't want it. It's that I cannot
migrate that server from RHEL4 to RHEL5, and maybe if I could I wouldn't
have the time to do it either.

I know about that, I manage my repos. You know I have offered help to
you many times...
DH

[Karanbir Singh]

Hi,

Post by Dag Wieers
So there you go :-) It's not that we don't want it. It's that I cannot
migrate that server from RHEL4 to RHEL5, and maybe if I could I wouldn't
have the time to do it either.

Fabian and I were going to look at doing this migration soon. There are
a couple of things that we spoke about ( maybe most of it was on irc ).
I'll do a short email on a new thread to recap exactly what the option
proposed was, and we can take it from there.

- KB

[David Hrbáč]

Post by Dag Wieers
The problem is that the server that currently creates the repositories
is running on RHEL4, and we need at least RHEL5 for creating sqlite
repositories.
So there you go :-) It's not that we don't want it. It's that I cannot
migrate that server from RHEL4 to RHEL5, and maybe if I could I wouldn't
have the time to do it either.

I know about that, I manage my repos. You know I have offered help to
you many times...
DH

[Dag Wieers]

Post by David Hrbáč

Post by Fabian Arrotin
Indeed, we talked about trimming (Steve said he would have a look) the
current repositories and update surya to C5 and then serve packages from
local disks instead of the nfs backend ...

Well, it would be fine to have repos sqlite enabled. This is something
I'm wanting for very long time. I'm prepared to help.

The problem is that the server that currently creates the repositories is
running on RHEL4, and we need at least RHEL5 for creating sqlite
repositories.

So there you go :-) It's not that we don't want it. It's that I cannot
migrate that server from RHEL4 to RHEL5, and maybe if I could I wouldn't
have the time to do it either.

[Dag Wieers]

Post by David Hrbáč

Post by Fabian Arrotin
Indeed, we talked about trimming (Steve said he would have a look) the
current repositories and update surya to C5 and then serve packages from
local disks instead of the nfs backend ...

Well, it would be fine to have repos sqlite enabled. This is something
I'm wanting for very long time. I'm prepared to help.

The problem is that the server that currently creates the repositories is
running on RHEL4, and we need at least RHEL5 for creating sqlite
repositories.

So there you go :-) It's not that we don't want it. It's that I cannot
migrate that server from RHEL4 to RHEL5, and maybe if I could I wouldn't
have the time to do it either.

[Dag Wieers]

Post by David Hrbáč

Post by Fabian Arrotin
Indeed, we talked about trimming (Steve said he would have a look) the
current repositories and update surya to C5 and then serve packages from
local disks instead of the nfs backend ...

Well, it would be fine to have repos sqlite enabled. This is something
I'm wanting for very long time. I'm prepared to help.

The problem is that the server that currently creates the repositories is
running on RHEL4, and we need at least RHEL5 for creating sqlite
repositories.

So there you go :-) It's not that we don't want it. It's that I cannot
migrate that server from RHEL4 to RHEL5, and maybe if I could I wouldn't
have the time to do it either.

[Dag Wieers]

Post by David Hrbáč

Post by Fabian Arrotin
Indeed, we talked about trimming (Steve said he would have a look) the
current repositories and update surya to C5 and then serve packages from
local disks instead of the nfs backend ...

Well, it would be fine to have repos sqlite enabled. This is something
I'm wanting for very long time. I'm prepared to help.

The problem is that the server that currently creates the repositories is
running on RHEL4, and we need at least RHEL5 for creating sqlite
repositories.

So there you go :-) It's not that we don't want it. It's that I cannot
migrate that server from RHEL4 to RHEL5, and maybe if I could I wouldn't
have the time to do it either.

[David Hrbáč]

Post by Fabian Arrotin
Indeed, we talked about trimming (Steve said he would have a look) the
current repositories and update surya to C5 and then serve packages from
local disks instead of the nfs backend ...

Well, it would be fine to have repos sqlite enabled. This is something
I'm wanting for very long time. I'm prepared to help.
Regards,
David Hrb??

[David Hrbáč]

Post by Fabian Arrotin
Indeed, we talked about trimming (Steve said he would have a look) the
current repositories and update surya to C5 and then serve packages from
local disks instead of the nfs backend ...

Well, it would be fine to have repos sqlite enabled. This is something
I'm wanting for very long time. I'm prepared to help.
Regards,
David Hrb??

[David Hrbáč]

Post by Fabian Arrotin
Indeed, we talked about trimming (Steve said he would have a look) the
current repositories and update surya to C5 and then serve packages from
local disks instead of the nfs backend ...

Well, it would be fine to have repos sqlite enabled. This is something
I'm wanting for very long time. I'm prepared to help.
Regards,
David Hrb??

[David Hrbáč]

Post by Fabian Arrotin
Indeed, we talked about trimming (Steve said he would have a look) the
current repositories and update surya to C5 and then serve packages from
local disks instead of the nfs backend ...

Well, it would be fine to have repos sqlite enabled. This is something
I'm wanting for very long time. I'm prepared to help.
Regards,
David Hrb??

[Fabian Arrotin]

Post by Karanbir Singh
Hi,

Post by Dag Wieers
This has happened last week as well. It has something to do with the NFS
share (which is the backend storage of the server) not being available.
Unfortunately I cannot fix it myself. I hope Karanbir can apply his
magic again.

Should be all fixed now. It looks like someone was trying to DDoS the
machine. Funny that the machine itself was fine, but the box that hosts
the remote disks could not keep up with the requests.
Let me look at a few options and see how we can bring storage local to
the machine, and perhaps have a failover closeby.

Indeed, we talked about trimming (Steve said he would have a look) the
current repositories and update surya to C5 and then serve packages from
local disks instead of the nfs backend ...

[Fabian Arrotin]

Post by Karanbir Singh
Hi,

Post by Dag Wieers
This has happened last week as well. It has something to do with the NFS
share (which is the backend storage of the server) not being available.
Unfortunately I cannot fix it myself. I hope Karanbir can apply his
magic again.

Should be all fixed now. It looks like someone was trying to DDoS the
machine. Funny that the machine itself was fine, but the box that hosts
the remote disks could not keep up with the requests.
Let me look at a few options and see how we can bring storage local to
the machine, and perhaps have a failover closeby.

Indeed, we talked about trimming (Steve said he would have a look) the
current repositories and update surya to C5 and then serve packages from
local disks instead of the nfs backend ...

[Fabian Arrotin]

Post by Karanbir Singh
Hi,

Post by Dag Wieers
This has happened last week as well. It has something to do with the NFS
share (which is the backend storage of the server) not being available.
Unfortunately I cannot fix it myself. I hope Karanbir can apply his
magic again.

Should be all fixed now. It looks like someone was trying to DDoS the
machine. Funny that the machine itself was fine, but the box that hosts
the remote disks could not keep up with the requests.
Let me look at a few options and see how we can bring storage local to
the machine, and perhaps have a failover closeby.

Indeed, we talked about trimming (Steve said he would have a look) the
current repositories and update surya to C5 and then serve packages from
local disks instead of the nfs backend ...

[Fabian Arrotin]

Post by Karanbir Singh
Hi,

Post by Dag Wieers
This has happened last week as well. It has something to do with the NFS
share (which is the backend storage of the server) not being available.
Unfortunately I cannot fix it myself. I hope Karanbir can apply his
magic again.

Should be all fixed now. It looks like someone was trying to DDoS the
machine. Funny that the machine itself was fine, but the box that hosts
the remote disks could not keep up with the requests.
Let me look at a few options and see how we can bring storage local to
the machine, and perhaps have a failover closeby.

Indeed, we talked about trimming (Steve said he would have a look) the
current repositories and update surya to C5 and then serve packages from
local disks instead of the nfs backend ...

[David Hrbáč]

Post by Karanbir Singh
Given that I'm already spread quite thin, and that you had offered to do
it Yury, are you still interested in doing the Trac setup ? I did email
you for a key and ip list that you connect from, but its possible that
email went walk-about, so asking again. Send me ( or Fabian ) a key and
we can get you setup with a machine instance you can use for the Trac site
- KB

If Yury will not step in, I can do it.
David Hrb??

[Yury V. Zaytsev]

Hi!

Post by David Hrbáč

Post by Karanbir Singh
Given that I'm already spread quite thin, and that you had offered to do
it Yury, are you still interested in doing the Trac setup ? I did email
you for a key and ip list that you connect from, but its possible that
email went walk-about, so asking again. Send me ( or Fabian ) a key and
we can get you setup with a machine instance you can use for the Trac site

If Yury will not step in, I can do it.

I'm sorry for late replies, but the fact is that my free time slots are
extremely bursty these days. I have to go to Marseille on Monday for a
week or so and the preceding weeks were filled with the preliminary
issues I had to deal with. I will send you an off-list message in a few
minutes.

[Yury V. Zaytsev]

Hi!

Post by David Hrbáč

Post by Karanbir Singh
Given that I'm already spread quite thin, and that you had offered to do
it Yury, are you still interested in doing the Trac setup ? I did email
you for a key and ip list that you connect from, but its possible that
email went walk-about, so asking again. Send me ( or Fabian ) a key and
we can get you setup with a machine instance you can use for the Trac site

If Yury will not step in, I can do it.

I'm sorry for late replies, but the fact is that my free time slots are
extremely bursty these days. I have to go to Marseille on Monday for a
week or so and the preceding weeks were filled with the preliminary
issues I had to deal with. I will send you an off-list message in a few
minutes.

[Yury V. Zaytsev]

Hi!

Post by David Hrbáč

Post by Karanbir Singh
Given that I'm already spread quite thin, and that you had offered to do
it Yury, are you still interested in doing the Trac setup ? I did email
you for a key and ip list that you connect from, but its possible that
email went walk-about, so asking again. Send me ( or Fabian ) a key and
we can get you setup with a machine instance you can use for the Trac site

If Yury will not step in, I can do it.

I'm sorry for late replies, but the fact is that my free time slots are
extremely bursty these days. I have to go to Marseille on Monday for a
week or so and the preceding weeks were filled with the preliminary
issues I had to deal with. I will send you an off-list message in a few
minutes.

[Yury V. Zaytsev]

Hi!

Post by David Hrbáč

Post by Karanbir Singh
Given that I'm already spread quite thin, and that you had offered to do
it Yury, are you still interested in doing the Trac setup ? I did email
you for a key and ip list that you connect from, but its possible that
email went walk-about, so asking again. Send me ( or Fabian ) a key and
we can get you setup with a machine instance you can use for the Trac site

If Yury will not step in, I can do it.

I'm sorry for late replies, but the fact is that my free time slots are
extremely bursty these days. I have to go to Marseille on Monday for a
week or so and the preceding weeks were filled with the preliminary
issues I had to deal with. I will send you an off-list message in a few
minutes.

[Yury V. Zaytsev]

Hi!

Post by David Hrbáč

Post by Karanbir Singh
Given that I'm already spread quite thin, and that you had offered to do
it Yury, are you still interested in doing the Trac setup ? I did email
you for a key and ip list that you connect from, but its possible that
email went walk-about, so asking again. Send me ( or Fabian ) a key and
we can get you setup with a machine instance you can use for the Trac site

If Yury will not step in, I can do it.

I'm sorry for late replies, but the fact is that my free time slots are
extremely bursty these days. I have to go to Marseille on Monday for a
week or so and the preceding weeks were filled with the preliminary
issues I had to deal with. I will send you an off-list message in a few
minutes.

[Dag Wieers]

It appears that your rpmforge packages site isn't working at the
moment. Any attempt to download from packages.sw.be fails at the moment.

Hi James,

This has happened last week as well. It has something to do with the NFS
share (which is the backend storage of the server) not being available.
Unfortunately I cannot fix it myself. I hope Karanbir can apply his magic
again.

Thanks for reporting !

[Karanbir Singh]

Hi Guys,

Post by Dag Wieers

It appears that your rpmforge packages site isn't working at the
moment. Any attempt to download from packages.sw.be fails at the moment.

Hi James,
This has happened last week as well. It has something to do with the NFS
share (which is the backend storage of the server) not being available.
Unfortunately I cannot fix it myself. I hope Karanbir can apply his
magic again.

Looking into the issue right now.

[Karanbir Singh]

Hi,

Post by Dag Wieers
This has happened last week as well. It has something to do with the NFS
share (which is the backend storage of the server) not being available.
Unfortunately I cannot fix it myself. I hope Karanbir can apply his
magic again.

Should be all fixed now. It looks like someone was trying to DDoS the
machine. Funny that the machine itself was fine, but the box that hosts
the remote disks could not keep up with the requests.

Let me look at a few options and see how we can bring storage local to
the machine, and perhaps have a failover closeby.

[David Hrbáč]

Post by Karanbir Singh
Given that I'm already spread quite thin, and that you had offered to do
it Yury, are you still interested in doing the Trac setup ? I did email
you for a key and ip list that you connect from, but its possible that
email went walk-about, so asking again. Send me ( or Fabian ) a key and
we can get you setup with a machine instance you can use for the Trac site
- KB

If Yury will not step in, I can do it.
David Hrb??

[Dag Wieers]

It appears that your rpmforge packages site isn't working at the
moment. Any attempt to download from packages.sw.be fails at the moment.

Hi James,

This has happened last week as well. It has something to do with the NFS
share (which is the backend storage of the server) not being available.
Unfortunately I cannot fix it myself. I hope Karanbir can apply his magic
again.

Thanks for reporting !

[Karanbir Singh]

Hi Guys,

Post by Dag Wieers

It appears that your rpmforge packages site isn't working at the
moment. Any attempt to download from packages.sw.be fails at the moment.

Hi James,
This has happened last week as well. It has something to do with the NFS
share (which is the backend storage of the server) not being available.
Unfortunately I cannot fix it myself. I hope Karanbir can apply his
magic again.

Looking into the issue right now.

[Karanbir Singh]

Hi,

Post by Dag Wieers
This has happened last week as well. It has something to do with the NFS
share (which is the backend storage of the server) not being available.
Unfortunately I cannot fix it myself. I hope Karanbir can apply his
magic again.

Should be all fixed now. It looks like someone was trying to DDoS the
machine. Funny that the machine itself was fine, but the box that hosts
the remote disks could not keep up with the requests.

Let me look at a few options and see how we can bring storage local to
the machine, and perhaps have a failover closeby.

[David Hrbáč]

Post by Karanbir Singh
Given that I'm already spread quite thin, and that you had offered to do
it Yury, are you still interested in doing the Trac setup ? I did email
you for a key and ip list that you connect from, but its possible that
email went walk-about, so asking again. Send me ( or Fabian ) a key and
we can get you setup with a machine instance you can use for the Trac site
- KB

If Yury will not step in, I can do it.
David Hrb??

[Dag Wieers]

It appears that your rpmforge packages site isn't working at the
moment. Any attempt to download from packages.sw.be fails at the moment.

Hi James,

This has happened last week as well. It has something to do with the NFS
share (which is the backend storage of the server) not being available.
Unfortunately I cannot fix it myself. I hope Karanbir can apply his magic
again.

Thanks for reporting !

[Karanbir Singh]

Hi Guys,

Post by Dag Wieers

It appears that your rpmforge packages site isn't working at the
moment. Any attempt to download from packages.sw.be fails at the moment.

Hi James,
This has happened last week as well. It has something to do with the NFS
share (which is the backend storage of the server) not being available.
Unfortunately I cannot fix it myself. I hope Karanbir can apply his
magic again.

Looking into the issue right now.

[Karanbir Singh]

Hi,

Post by Dag Wieers
This has happened last week as well. It has something to do with the NFS
share (which is the backend storage of the server) not being available.
Unfortunately I cannot fix it myself. I hope Karanbir can apply his
magic again.

Should be all fixed now. It looks like someone was trying to DDoS the
machine. Funny that the machine itself was fine, but the box that hosts
the remote disks could not keep up with the requests.

Let me look at a few options and see how we can bring storage local to
the machine, and perhaps have a failover closeby.

[David Hrbáč]

Post by Karanbir Singh
Given that I'm already spread quite thin, and that you had offered to do
it Yury, are you still interested in doing the Trac setup ? I did email
you for a key and ip list that you connect from, but its possible that
email went walk-about, so asking again. Send me ( or Fabian ) a key and
we can get you setup with a machine instance you can use for the Trac site
- KB

If Yury will not step in, I can do it.
David Hrb??

[Dag Wieers]

It appears that your rpmforge packages site isn't working at the
moment. Any attempt to download from packages.sw.be fails at the moment.

Hi James,

This has happened last week as well. It has something to do with the NFS
share (which is the backend storage of the server) not being available.
Unfortunately I cannot fix it myself. I hope Karanbir can apply his magic
again.

Thanks for reporting !

[Karanbir Singh]

Hi Guys,

Post by Dag Wieers

It appears that your rpmforge packages site isn't working at the
moment. Any attempt to download from packages.sw.be fails at the moment.

Hi James,
This has happened last week as well. It has something to do with the NFS
share (which is the backend storage of the server) not being available.
Unfortunately I cannot fix it myself. I hope Karanbir can apply his
magic again.

Looking into the issue right now.

[Karanbir Singh]

Hi,

Post by Dag Wieers
This has happened last week as well. It has something to do with the NFS
share (which is the backend storage of the server) not being available.
Unfortunately I cannot fix it myself. I hope Karanbir can apply his
magic again.

Should be all fixed now. It looks like someone was trying to DDoS the
machine. Funny that the machine itself was fine, but the box that hosts
the remote disks could not keep up with the requests.

Let me look at a few options and see how we can bring storage local to
the machine, and perhaps have a failover closeby.

[David Hrbáč]

Post by Karanbir Singh
Given that I'm already spread quite thin, and that you had offered to do
it Yury, are you still interested in doing the Trac setup ? I did email
you for a key and ip list that you connect from, but its possible that
email went walk-about, so asking again. Send me ( or Fabian ) a key and
we can get you setup with a machine instance you can use for the Trac site
- KB

If Yury will not step in, I can do it.
David Hrb??