Discussion:
[users] texlive-2011
Bob Tennent
2011-11-16 18:27:13 UTC
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RHEL-6 is still distributing texlive-2007, which is hopelessly
out-of-date. Jindrich Novy has provided yum repositories for
TeXLive-2011 on Fedora:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/TeXLive
http://www.linux.cz/mailman/listinfo/texlive

But incorporation into an official Fedora release is held up pending
legal audit and RHEL repos aren't provided there. I suggest that
texlive-2011 packages be provided for Centos 6 and Centos 5 in
rpmforge-extras.

Bob T.
Yury V. Zaytsev
2011-11-16 20:01:30 UTC
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Post by Bob Tennent
But incorporation into an official Fedora release is held up pending
legal audit and RHEL repos aren't provided there. I suggest that
texlive-2011 packages be provided for Centos 6 and Centos 5 in
rpmforge-extras.
I don't think it's even an option. This is an insane burden to maintain
and replacing stock RHEL packages is no-go.

If I were you, I would make a full install from the DVD
into /opt/texlive-2011 and then package that as a huge RPM in order to
ease the maintenance.
--
Sincerely yours,
Yury V. Zaytsev
C.M. Connelly
2011-11-16 21:33:31 UTC
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"YVZ" == Yury V Zaytsev <yury at shurup.com>

I'm one of the former teTeX packagers on Debian, and yeah, it
would be (and is) a huge amount of work (especially as TeX Live
incorporates a number of other things that are packaged
separately). TeX is huge for my site, but for workstations we
just do a single install on a network share, and have all the
machines point to that -- you can even install support for 32- and
64-bit Linux, Mac OS X, and Windows all in one place. And it's
easy to keep that one install updated, which is good, because
things do get broken and they're often updated without much in the
way of notice.

YVZ> If I were you, I would make a full install from the DVD
YVZ> into /opt/texlive-2011 and then package that as a huge
YVZ> RPM in order to ease the maintenance.

There's also a network installer script that does most of the work
for you; see http://tug.org/texlive/acquire.html for installation
options.

Claire

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Claire M. Connelly cmc at math.hmc.edu
System Administrator, Dept. of Mathematics, Harvey Mudd College
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Matthew Saltzman
2011-11-17 20:43:02 UTC
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Post by C.M. Connelly
"YVZ" == Yury V Zaytsev <yury at shurup.com>
I'm one of the former teTeX packagers on Debian, and yeah, it
would be (and is) a huge amount of work (especially as TeX Live
incorporates a number of other things that are packaged
separately). TeX is huge for my site, but for workstations we
just do a single install on a network share, and have all the
machines point to that -- you can even install support for 32- and
64-bit Linux, Mac OS X, and Windows all in one place. And it's
easy to keep that one install updated, which is good, because
things do get broken and they're often updated without much in the
way of notice.
YVZ> If I were you, I would make a full install from the DVD
YVZ> into /opt/texlive-2011 and then package that as a huge
YVZ> RPM in order to ease the maintenance.
There's also a network installer script that does most of the work
for you; see http://tug.org/texlive/acquire.html for installation
options.
And Jindrich has an RHEL6 repo here:
http://jnovy.fedorapeople.org/texlive/texlive-release-2011.el6.noarch.rpm

I use it and it seems to be OK. There's no corresponding 2010 repo,
though, AFAICT.
--
Matthew Saltzman
Clemson University Mathematical Sciences
mjs AT clemson DOT edu
Yury V. Zaytsev
2011-11-17 21:14:53 UTC
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Post by Matthew Saltzman
I use it and it seems to be OK. There's no corresponding 2010 repo,
though, AFAICT.
I imagine it replaces the original packages though (which might be OK
for most, just keep in mind that it should be used with care).
--
Sincerely yours,
Yury V. Zaytsev
Matthew Saltzman
2011-11-21 00:13:15 UTC
Permalink
Post by Yury V. Zaytsev
Post by Matthew Saltzman
I use it and it seems to be OK. There's no corresponding 2010 repo,
though, AFAICT.
I imagine it replaces the original packages though (which might be OK
for most, just keep in mind that it should be used with care).
Yes, delete the RHEL6 packages before installing these. These obsolete
the distro packages, so conflicts aren't an issue. You do need to
rebuild evince updates from the SRPM though, if you use evince-dvi.
--
Matthew Saltzman
Clemson University Mathematical Sciences
mjs AT clemson DOT edu
Matthew Saltzman
2011-11-21 00:13:15 UTC
Permalink
Post by Yury V. Zaytsev
Post by Matthew Saltzman
I use it and it seems to be OK. There's no corresponding 2010 repo,
though, AFAICT.
I imagine it replaces the original packages though (which might be OK
for most, just keep in mind that it should be used with care).
Yes, delete the RHEL6 packages before installing these. These obsolete
the distro packages, so conflicts aren't an issue. You do need to
rebuild evince updates from the SRPM though, if you use evince-dvi.
--
Matthew Saltzman
Clemson University Mathematical Sciences
mjs AT clemson DOT edu
Yury V. Zaytsev
2011-11-17 21:14:53 UTC
Permalink
Post by Matthew Saltzman
I use it and it seems to be OK. There's no corresponding 2010 repo,
though, AFAICT.
I imagine it replaces the original packages though (which might be OK
for most, just keep in mind that it should be used with care).
--
Sincerely yours,
Yury V. Zaytsev
Matthew Saltzman
2011-11-17 20:43:02 UTC
Permalink
Post by C.M. Connelly
"YVZ" == Yury V Zaytsev <yury at shurup.com>
I'm one of the former teTeX packagers on Debian, and yeah, it
would be (and is) a huge amount of work (especially as TeX Live
incorporates a number of other things that are packaged
separately). TeX is huge for my site, but for workstations we
just do a single install on a network share, and have all the
machines point to that -- you can even install support for 32- and
64-bit Linux, Mac OS X, and Windows all in one place. And it's
easy to keep that one install updated, which is good, because
things do get broken and they're often updated without much in the
way of notice.
YVZ> If I were you, I would make a full install from the DVD
YVZ> into /opt/texlive-2011 and then package that as a huge
YVZ> RPM in order to ease the maintenance.
There's also a network installer script that does most of the work
for you; see http://tug.org/texlive/acquire.html for installation
options.
And Jindrich has an RHEL6 repo here:
http://jnovy.fedorapeople.org/texlive/texlive-release-2011.el6.noarch.rpm

I use it and it seems to be OK. There's no corresponding 2010 repo,
though, AFAICT.
--
Matthew Saltzman
Clemson University Mathematical Sciences
mjs AT clemson DOT edu
C.M. Connelly
2011-11-16 21:33:31 UTC
Permalink
"YVZ" == Yury V Zaytsev <yury at shurup.com>

I'm one of the former teTeX packagers on Debian, and yeah, it
would be (and is) a huge amount of work (especially as TeX Live
incorporates a number of other things that are packaged
separately). TeX is huge for my site, but for workstations we
just do a single install on a network share, and have all the
machines point to that -- you can even install support for 32- and
64-bit Linux, Mac OS X, and Windows all in one place. And it's
easy to keep that one install updated, which is good, because
things do get broken and they're often updated without much in the
way of notice.

YVZ> If I were you, I would make a full install from the DVD
YVZ> into /opt/texlive-2011 and then package that as a huge
YVZ> RPM in order to ease the maintenance.

There's also a network installer script that does most of the work
for you; see http://tug.org/texlive/acquire.html for installation
options.

Claire

*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
Claire M. Connelly cmc at math.hmc.edu
System Administrator, Dept. of Mathematics, Harvey Mudd College
*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*-*
Bob Tennent
2011-11-16 18:27:13 UTC
Permalink
RHEL-6 is still distributing texlive-2007, which is hopelessly
out-of-date. Jindrich Novy has provided yum repositories for
TeXLive-2011 on Fedora:

http://fedoraproject.org/wiki/Features/TeXLive
http://www.linux.cz/mailman/listinfo/texlive

But incorporation into an official Fedora release is held up pending
legal audit and RHEL repos aren't provided there. I suggest that
texlive-2011 packages be provided for Centos 6 and Centos 5 in
rpmforge-extras.

Bob T.
Yury V. Zaytsev
2011-11-16 20:01:30 UTC
Permalink
Post by Bob Tennent
But incorporation into an official Fedora release is held up pending
legal audit and RHEL repos aren't provided there. I suggest that
texlive-2011 packages be provided for Centos 6 and Centos 5 in
rpmforge-extras.
I don't think it's even an option. This is an insane burden to maintain
and replacing stock RHEL packages is no-go.

If I were you, I would make a full install from the DVD
into /opt/texlive-2011 and then package that as a huge RPM in order to
ease the maintenance.
--
Sincerely yours,
Yury V. Zaytsev
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